Discussion:
'Barclays Bank' Scam
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Mr J Carpenter
2006-02-07 17:00:00 UTC
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I have now received my fourth email regarding a Barclays account (which I
don't have), each upping the warning to take action now (sender's info
below). Naturally I ignored them to start with, but now feel it better to
warn others who may have an account there.


From: ***@drimhost02.drim.co. recd 24th Jan
From: Barclays Bank PLC <***@barclays.co.uk> recd 1st Feb
From: Barclays Accounts Management <***@Barclays.Co.Uk> rec'd 2nd Feb
From: Barclays Bank <***@barclays.co.uk> recd 3rd Feb.

This last one came (again empty but as an HTML) via the following:-
Received: by wmphpp08.st2.lyceu.net (Postfix, from userid 1481557)

Its last two lines were:-
X-orpheus-MailScanner-SpamScore: 3, 3
X-MailScanner-From: ***@kaqaperdhici-1.org

So, Beware!
J.C.
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Colin Matthews
2006-02-07 22:42:11 UTC
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Post by Mr J Carpenter
I have now received my fourth email regarding a Barclays account
(which I don't have)
Until recently I've been getting about 5 a day from the very helpful
J S Smith, Barclays Bank Security Adviser. Not only to the obvious
addresses (like this one) but now to every one of my argonet/orpheus
addresses, including two which have very limited circulation. I
presume they're being harvested from PC address books.

Colin
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Dave Plowman (News)
2006-02-08 00:06:43 UTC
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Post by Mr J Carpenter
I have now received my fourth email regarding a Barclays account (which I
don't have), each upping the warning to take action now (sender's info
below). Naturally I ignored them to start with, but now feel it better to
warn others who may have an account there.
Just about every bank known has these scam e-mails doing the rounds. Oh -
and things like PayPal.

I suppose they trap some inadequates otherwise they wouldn't bother. But
I'd say that most having received several at once would realise what they
are.
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Bill (Adopt)
2006-02-08 03:17:52 UTC
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Post by Mr J Carpenter
I have now received my fourth email regarding a Barclays account (which I
don't have), each upping the warning to take action now (sender's info
below). Naturally I ignored them to start with, but now feel it better to
warn others who may have an account there.
[..]
Post by Mr J Carpenter
This last one came (again empty but as an HTML) via the following:-
Received: by wmphpp08.st2.lyceu.net (Postfix, from userid 1481557)
Its last two lines were:-
X-orpheus-MailScanner-SpamScore: 3, 3
..means it's spam!

Although ..woooooo.. it's not recommending the use of an
account with V.I.G.A.Y. somewhere in the 'name', is it? O;))

Barclays Bank, Plc, have a very simple policy. They
do NOT get in touch with their Customers via email.

All official contact regarding accounts, apart from telephone
banking and Online Accounts via telephone are done through
normal landmail and subject to their usual security clearance.

Barclays Customers are already advised by Barclays Plc to
ignore emails...

Incidentally, Barclays were the very first of the major
Banks to engineer their site(s) from the start with RISC OS
in mind.. and to make their offering easily compatible with,
for instance, the !Fresco varieties of browser...

..but thanks for the warning, John! There's always some
gormless idiot who opens /every/ email as if it's their
last.. :))

Bill ZFC
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Rosemary Miskin
2006-02-07 18:43:55 UTC
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Post by Mr J Carpenter
I have now received my fourth email regarding a Barclays account
Only 4? I'm up to 38 now, in just under a month.

I don't actually now what they say, as Antispam deletes them for me.

Since my bank doesn't know my email address, I'm quite happy deleting any
emails from them - and even happier to delete mails, such as these, from
banks I have no dealings with.


Rosemary
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Dr Peter Young
2006-02-08 18:47:57 UTC
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Post by Rosemary Miskin
Post by Mr J Carpenter
I have now received my fourth email regarding a Barclays account
Only 4? I'm up to 38 now, in just under a month.
I don't actually now what they say, as Antispam deletes them for me.
Since my bank doesn't know my email address, I'm quite happy deleting any
emails from them - and even happier to delete mails, such as these, from
banks I have no dealings with.
I tried to fill one of these (or was it one of the Paypal ones?) with
bogus data, but it wanted a Social Security number, presumably a USA
one, and I couldn't find the correct format for it.

So the spammers, sending it to a .uk address, seem to be as stupid as
those who fall for the spam. :-)

With best wishes,

Peter.
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Mr C Price
2006-02-09 08:40:00 UTC
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Post by Dr Peter Young
Post by Rosemary Miskin
Post by Mr J Carpenter
I have now received my fourth email regarding a Barclays account
Only 4? I'm up to 38 now, in just under a month.
I don't actually now what they say, as Antispam deletes them for me.
Since my bank doesn't know my email address, I'm quite happy deleting
any emails from them - and even happier to delete mails, such as these,
from banks I have no dealings with.
I tried to fill one of these (or was it one of the Paypal ones?) with
bogus data, but it wanted a Social Security number, presumably a USA
one, and I couldn't find the correct format for it.
So the spammers, sending it to a .uk address, seem to be as stupid as
those who fall for the spam. :-)
We had one of these here in the Isle of Man. They tried to reassure us by
showing us their "corporate headquarters" - a 20 storey skyscraper.

This would have been accepted if they hadn't tried to make ou that this was
located in Port St.Mary - a village of some 900 souls with no building
bigger than a 2 storey cottage!

Chris.
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Gordon Webb
2006-02-10 19:06:31 UTC
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Post by Rosemary Miskin
Post by Mr J Carpenter
I have now received my fourth email regarding a Barclays account
Only 4? I'm up to 38 now, in just under a month.
I don't actually now what they say, as Antispam deletes them for me.
Since my bank doesn't know my email address, I'm quite happy deleting any
emails from them - and even happier to delete mails, such as these, from
banks I have no dealings with.
Rosemary
It would seem that some people are daft enough to fall for these as Barclays
have sent emails out warning account holders who have online access NOT to
reply to any such email claiming to come from them.

I got one such email supposedly from my bank some years ago and I promptly
phoned my bank to warn them someone was impersonating them, they told me to
ignore the email, a bit daft as I had ignored it and was warning the bank.

Gordon
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Bill (Adopt)
2006-02-11 07:25:59 UTC
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Post by Gordon Webb
Post by Rosemary Miskin
Post by Mr J Carpenter
I have now received my fourth email regarding a Barclays account
Since my bank doesn't know my email address, I'm quite happy deleting any
emails from them - and even happier to delete mails, such as these, from
banks I have no dealings with.
It would seem that some people are daft enough to fall for these as Barclays
have sent emails out warning account holders who have online access NOT to
reply to any such email claiming to come from them.
Barclay's - to repeat - do NOT send emails to their
Online Customers! :))

You will have been warned either via Barclays Secured Web
Site when you logged on as an Online Customer, or if anything
via normal land mail - much carried these days by TNT.

If you received an email apparently just to warn you not to
open it - and did at tht time open it - then you may have
already been suckered, hopefully with no ongoing consequence...

As you appreciate, to open it is to invite trouble in the
form of a worm, virus or whatnot, especially if one is using
a Microsoft PC...
Post by Gordon Webb
I got one such email supposedly from my bank some years ago and I promptly
phoned my bank to warn them someone was impersonating them, they told me to
ignore the email, a bit daft as I had ignored it and was warning the bank.
Sounds like someone owes you an apology for a less than
tactful reply, Gordon.

Although the person answering your comment might have been
a bit abrupt or, rather, lacking a little in 'calming wit',
it was still the correct advice they gave you.

Look at it from Barclay's point of view and you would have
been just one among many hundreds - even thousands - of
customers who were 'warning' Barclays - and all at the same
time. (You would not have been in any way unique). It's an
unwelcome administrative load for them as well; they are
forced to become unwilling partners in the almost insatiable
'twitchy-finger/mouse-click' curiosity of their all too
human customers!

For instance, look at the small amount of time we've already
spent here, in this ng, just discussing this topic. Imagine
that multiplied a few thousand fold. That is what Barclays
have to field every time one of these emails hits the street.

It's like, well ..ooooerr!!! ;))

So their advice - not NOT open emails purporting to be from
Barclays - and NOT to pay such further attention, time or
expense by 'warning' Barclays is, without doubt, the best.

Barclay's Online customers should already /know/ what to do.

Next time - and there will always be a next time - it's
better if everyone just dumps the junk without even thinking
of opening it and then goes on their way, happy in the
knowledge that a scam hasn't even scratched their sensible,
protected surface. They will most certainly not miss anything
important.

The same applies to unknown emails from other sources -
such as Ebay, asking you to re-establish that account for
which they have 'lost' the details. Do not even open it,
for in doing so, the scam merchant has already won...

Back to Barclays, if they wish to get in touch with anyone,
they will do it directly, in one of the time-honoured and more
secure methods than email.

Oh boy.. Do I remember the days of, "Oh.. Mr. Bill ZFC -
Mr Chamber's (The Bank Manager!) would like to have a quick
word with you, if you don't mind stepping this way...."! ;))

However, the comments from both John and yourself, Gordon,
are wisdom for the uninitiated - especially for customers of
other institutions. I'm not sure what arrangements Banks
other than Barclays might have - although it's a fairly safe
guess that they will operate a mostly identical policy...

..and, from this end at least, thank you.. :))

Bill ZFC
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Dr Peter Young
2006-02-11 08:47:12 UTC
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Post by Bill (Adopt)
Post by Gordon Webb
Post by Rosemary Miskin
Post by Mr J Carpenter
I have now received my fourth email regarding a Barclays account
Since my bank doesn't know my email address, I'm quite happy deleting any
emails from them - and even happier to delete mails, such as these, from
banks I have no dealings with.
It would seem that some people are daft enough to fall for these as Barclays
have sent emails out warning account holders who have online access NOT to
reply to any such email claiming to come from them.
Barclay's - to repeat - do NOT send emails to their
Online Customers! :))
And I've had a similar one from amazon.com this morning; I've only
ever dealt with amazon.co.uk.

Everyone needs to be on the lookout.

With best wishes,

Peter.
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Dr J E Hurley
2006-02-14 10:42:27 UTC
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Post by Dr Peter Young
And I've had a similar one from amazon.com this morning; I've only
ever dealt with amazon.co.uk.
Everyone needs to be on the lookout.
With best wishes,
Peter.
E-bay, paypal, lloyds bank, companies I have never heard of - despite Paul's
filtering systems there is scarely a day goes by without one. And now an
"anglicised" version of the Nigerian scam. Presumably enough people fall for
it. I personally try to keep financial transactions on-line to a minimum,
even for the businesses.

John
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Dave Plowman (News)
2006-02-11 09:49:09 UTC
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Post by Bill (Adopt)
Barclay's - to repeat - do NOT send emails to their
Online Customers! :))
You will have been warned either via Barclays Secured Web
Site when you logged on as an Online Customer, or if anything
via normal land mail - much carried these days by TNT.
If you received an email apparently just to warn you not to
open it - and did at tht time open it - then you may have
already been suckered, hopefully with no ongoing consequence...
In any case, the address the spammers use is wrong. For online banking
Barclay's use 'i-bank'

Never under any circumstances go to a link given in an e-mail which asks
you for personal details etc. If you suspect it may be genuine, go to the
site via your own stored link - if they do require some information you'll
be told after logging on.
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Lionel Smith
2006-02-14 21:09:43 UTC
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Post by Dave Plowman (News)
In any case, the address the spammers use is wrong. For online banking
Barclay's use 'i-bank'
Some time ago (2 yrs or 18 mnths) I had a few spoof emails purporting to
come from Barclays and raised the issue with my local branch, the girl on
the counter looked puzzled when I mentioned 'fishing' scams but a
supervisor in the background picked up on it and accepted my printout
with headers. She told me a specific person would be in touch so that I
could send by e-mail, any future samples to their IT team. This proceeded.

Things went quiet until about 2 months ago when a sudden spate of such
emails appeared again, and have continued using various, increasingly
devious, ploys to trap the unwary. I have continued to appraise Barclays
of this ongoing situation when I spot something a little different or
more worrying.

I made it clear that I fully understood that these things were
potentially dangerous.

Lionel
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Bill (Adopt)
2006-02-15 01:13:32 UTC
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Post by Lionel Smith
Post by Dave Plowman (News)
In any case, the address the spammers use is wrong. For online banking
Barclay's use 'i-bank'
Some time ago (2 yrs or 18 mnths) I had a few spoof emails
purporting to come from Barclays and raised the issue
[..]
Post by Lionel Smith
me a specific person would be in touch so that I
could send by e-mail, any future samples to their IT team.
Things went quiet until about 2 months ago when a sudden spate of such
emails appeared again, and have continued using various, increasingly
devious, ploys to trap the unwary.
Well ..surely the unwary have to open the emails for
a start? ..even though Online Banking (I-Bank) customers
should know got to open these emails...

..or do the emails now open themselves, before one has
the chance to bin them into the trash..? (Not sarcastic
- I wouldn't put email domination of even a RISC OS bin
outside of Microsoft's dirty tricks department)...
Post by Lionel Smith
I have continued to appraise Barclays
of this ongoing situation when I spot something a little different or
more worrying.
If you've have already been in touch with Barclays - and
have been asked, following that, to communicate directly
with their techies - and Barclays have indicated in your
physical presence by giving you the contact in the first
place that they are happy with you keeping on opening
these things and reporting back to them.. then fine!

Who better than yourself, with your qualifications and
interests, to do this...

...otherwise - and for the rest of us...

..we should always just bin any email communications from
Barclays, as said, without a seconds thought. Any email
purporting to be from Barclays is not only spurious, but
just /so/ unimportant. Do /not/ even bother opening them
for, by your doing so, the scam merchant has already
succeeded. Imagine your front door - and that foot.. ?:))

To repeat, although I'm sure there's no need, Barclays do
not send unsolicited or administrative email messages to
their customers. It is important for Barclays customer's
to understand this. Anything that purports to come from
Barclays regarding I-Banking, or anything else, /is a scam/....
Post by Lionel Smith
I made it clear that I fully understood that these things were
potentially dangerous.
Absolutely! With your technical expertise Barclays are
clearly only too happy to accept your assistance in
alleviating some of the damage that might be caused
if the office junior key-pusher opens one whilst picking
their nails ..or nose..

For my part - I only got as far as being a guinea-pig fur
carrier for the (at the time.. hehehe!), inviolability of
RISC OS - and in beta'ring their test site with Fresco.
After that, I started using them - instead of them me.

Although, considering their profits against my pension, I
do rather wonder... ;))

Bill ZFC
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Tennant Stuart
2006-02-15 18:56:54 UTC
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Post by Bill (Adopt)
I wouldn't put email domination of even a RISC OS bin
outside of Microsoft's dirty tricks department
Even if the Microsoft DTD employed the cleverest/evillest Risc-OS
programmers, could they come up with anything that could adversely
get past Posty, even if any attachments were viewed with Fresco?


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Russell Hafter News
2006-02-11 10:45:47 UTC
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I'm not sure what arrangements Banks other than Barclays
might have - although it's a fairly safe guess that they
will operate a mostly identical policy...
I think that just about everyone of the financila
institutions that I deal with online, in the UK, Germany,
France, Belgium and Switzerland has such notices on their
website.

Some have pop-ups on the subject which you have to
acknowledge before proceeding.

But it is easy here - I have never had an e-mail purporting
to come from a bank with whom I actually bank online. Mostly
they refer to banks I have nothing to do with.
:-)
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Lionel Smith
2006-02-14 21:12:49 UTC
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Post by Russell Hafter News
Some have pop-ups on the subject which you have to
acknowledge before proceeding.
To be honest I distrust any such pop-ups. Indeed many have software set
to intercept them.

If this catches on then it is another good reason to stay clear of
On-Line banking.

I am also wary of Active-X and have set these to announce themselves so
that I can decline them if I think fit.

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Russell Hafter News
2006-02-15 09:16:48 UTC
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Post by Lionel Smith
Post by Russell Hafter News
Some have pop-ups on the subject which you have to
acknowledge before proceeding.
To be honest I distrust any such pop-ups. Indeed many
have software set to intercept them.
True. But many on-line banking systems also *require* them.
They give you instructions on how to permit pop-ups for
specific sites, though these tend to refer to Internet
Explorer, which I do not use.
Post by Lionel Smith
If this catches on then it is another good reason to stay
clear of On-Line banking.
Personally, I would find it extremely inconvenient and
expensive not to have it.

Being able to pay someone's bill instantly, then fax them
the proof that the money has been paid into their account is
an enormous bonus.
Post by Lionel Smith
I am also wary of Active-X and have set these to announce
themselves so that I can decline them if I think fit.
As I use Firefox and Opera for online banking I guess that
the banks have certainly cottoned on to the dangers of this.

It is worth noting that Internet Explorer is *not* included
in the list of recommended browsers put out by the German
Federal Office for IT Security (nor are Opera or Safari for
that matter either, but I do not know in fact how much
testing they have actually done!)
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Tennant Stuart
2006-02-08 19:01:37 UTC
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Post by Mr J Carpenter
I have now received my fourth email regarding a Barclays account (which I
don't have), each upping the warning to take action now (sender's info
below). Naturally I ignored them to start with, but now feel it better to
warn others who may have an account there.
I have my Antispam rules file set to delete emails from Barclays, Ebay,
and PayPal, none of which have legitimate uses for me.


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